Cafe Hayek - Latest Comments in Situational Ethics

Re: Situational Ethics

lowcountryjoe — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:04:11 -0000

Yep, yawn. That's pretty much how I feel every time you seek to inject your religious views of all things evnvironmental, with most of mankind being sinners. I'm tired of the homilies, Gil; you're bringing your church to us and it's causing my sleepiness.

Re: Situational Ethics

Gil — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:32:48 -0000

*YAWN!* X0

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lowcountryjoe — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:00:27 -0000

Yes, Gil, we got that when we read you crying fowl the first time. It's entirely likely that your pressing question will be ducked again.

Have you been to see The Wonderful Wizard yet?

Re: Situational Ethics

Gil — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:06:51 -0000

Actually my original question is what could poor pigeons do to a tennis match that they to be shot? It's not quite a 'it's not hurting anyone' scenario here.

Re: Situational Ethics

lowcountyjoe — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:40:27 -0000

Could you seriously compare Marxism and Darwinism LCJ!?!?!?! 8( Darwinism is what the free market is all about - making sure the best succeed and the worst fall off the end.

No, seriously I didn't. It was meant as a parody. And oh yes, the free market is all about getting what you can by crapping all over those people around you who can exploited. That's why none of what takes place within the markets is cooperative and volunatry...it's just shrewd people taking advantage of one another at the expense of everyone involved. This is why there's no satisfaction -- ever! -- and NO ONE keeps cooperative partnerships and comes to agreements. I think we're best served if governmet takes over the role of mediator -- in EVERY transaction -- so that we can finally negotiate with each other and progress (COLLECTIVELY).

And if the worst are falling off the end, I propose that we flip the scenario on its head and reward the worst and punish the best because it sounds like such a good idea. Oh, wait...we're already kind of doing this. Should we just AVIS this then..."yes we can!"

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lowcountyjoe — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:23:30 -0000

You mean the pigeon mafia is after me? Oh shit! I think the Good Feathas are pecking at my door!

You've got some gull, sticking your beak into the business of organized government er...crime.

Re: Situational Ethics

Gil — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:53:59 -0000

If that is your real name brotio or should I say i-robot?

Re: Situational Ethics

brotio — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:57:54 -0000

"Furthermore proof from brotio of the Hobbesian Social Contract and Coasian Property Rights? The weak being defenseless against the strong (in a fully open society) have to make themselves the property of a particular strong man or a group thereof thereby gaining their protection from other strong men/groups?"

You mean the pigeon mafia is after me? Oh shit! I think the Good Feathas are pecking at my door!

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Gil — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:17:11 -0000

Furthermore proof from brotio of the Hobbesian Social Contract and Coasian Property Rights? The weak being defenseless against the strong (in a fully open society) have to make themselves the property of a particular strong man or a group thereof thereby gaining their protection from other strong men/groups?

Re: Situational Ethics

Gil — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:13:40 -0000

Could you seriously compare Marxism and Darwinism LCJ!?!?!?! 8( Darwinism is what the free market is all about - making sure the best succeed and the worst fall off the end. Perhaps Libertarians should heed a Darwinistic creed - 'no justice but what you take(/make?)'. Not heeding is probably why many-a-Libertarian complain when they feel their rights trampled all over and can't(won't?) do anything about it.

Re: Situational Ethics

brotio — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:54:32 -0000

BTW, Gil

I kill pigeons without entertaining the notion of even feeding them to my cat, much less eating the filthy, shit-eating squab myself.

And LMAO @ pigeonholing the shooters as insensitive! :D

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brotio — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:47:18 -0000

Let me see if I can anger the militant vegetarian/animal rights moonbats even more:

I shoot pigeons every chance I get. I run them over in the street at every opportunity. I'll poison all of them in my neighborhood if I ever find a pigeon-specific poison. If they became extinct tomorrow, I'd drink a toast in celebration.

Yes, pigeons are the Sixteenth Amendment of the animal kingdom. The sooner we're rid of both, the better. :p

Re: Situational Ethics

lowcountyjoe — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:14:42 -0000

Coinkidink that while you're going in reverse you feel the same way as I do while I'm moving forward? That's quite an admission!

I feel ya, Gil, Darwinian survival is using a pack-like mentality to do as Marx advocated: overthrow the bourgeoisie in a violent manner...for civility and social stability, of course.

With that attitude, it's no wonder that you deny natural law. Just sort-of repeat after Dorothy as she clicks her heels only making a small alteration, "There's no place like yourhome! There's no place like yourhome!"

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Gil — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:50:56 -0000

What a coinkidink LCJ! I feel the same way in reverse. Still it's a reminder that there's no such thing as 'natural law'. The only 'laws' nature provides is one of harsh Darwinian survival. >:)

Re: Situational Ethics

lowcountyjoe — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:29:23 -0000

Hunting for strawmen LCJ?

No; just one. I'll leave you alone once you, Dorothy, and the rest of the gang reach The Wizard and you finally get your brain.

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gil arno — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:13:05 -0000

hey, by the same token

http://www.reuters.com/arti...

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jpm — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:44:18 -0000

"As I grew up in South Louisiana on a plantation surrounded by poverty I, too,"

As some one who lives in Louisiana, I am just flat out insulted by the arrogance of the Scallaywags and left wing Carpetbaggers that think they are so much better than the hard working productive population of Louisiana. The facts are there is far more acreage in Louisiana under timberland and more acreage under marshes then there is of river valley "plantation" land. The only poverty that does exist in Louisiana is directly caused by the liberal policies and mindsets of the arrogant elite who make such an effort to brainwash the that population into relying on their historically proven failed policies. Everybody else manages to lift themselves beyond that.

Re: Situational Ethics

Gil — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:22:47 -0000

Hunting for strawmen LCJ?

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Michael — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:25:59 -0000

"Emotional energy" is free.

You can only care about so many things at a time to varying degrees, so I would dispute the notion that it's free.

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lowcountyjoe — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:20:16 -0000

It's smarter than a mouse...smaller than a house, bigger than a louse. A pigeon is more like a grouse...

Gadzooks! Am I reading Seuss?

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Trumpit — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:52:04 -0000

Btw, it's not even close to say that a pigeon is just a rat with wings. A rat is quite intelligent and can learn all sort of things. It's smarter than a mouse...smaller than a house, bigger than a louse. A pigeon is more like a grouse...

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Trumpit — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:54:40 -0000

"Pigeons are essentially rats with wings..."

Most rats that I know are of the two-legged variety. "Rata de dos patas" rhymes in Spanish - I heard it in a Paquita del Barrio song.

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Trumpit — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:54:01 -0000

"Pigeons are essentially rats with wings..."

Most rats that I know are of the two-legged variety. "Rata de dos patas" rhymes in Spanish - I heard it in a Paquita del Barrio song.

Re: Situational Ethics

LowcountryJoe — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:11:59 -0000

Social nanny-statism, too, Gil?!

Re: Situational Ethics

Gil — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:00:09 -0000

M.B. suggests a good point. :P